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	<title>Comments on: Gold saved! RSC Italian Job competition is won</title>
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		<title>By: Climactic cliffhanger from The Italian Job solved with science - 9th Edition &#124; Taste The Win</title>
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		<dc:creator>Climactic cliffhanger from The Italian Job solved with science - 9th Edition &#124; Taste The Win</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 04:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Avogadro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avogadro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could they not have just bailed from the bus very quickly and let the bus and the gold fall. After the bus had fallen go and collect the gold at the bottom from the wreckage. Although there is a risk that the gold will be dispersed by an explosion and the logistics of recovering the gold will be tricky given the terrain. But surely a more safe and logical solution given the time frame in which to operate. Throwing a shoe to break a window is not really going to work, easier said than done. 
But then again it is only a bit of fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could they not have just bailed from the bus very quickly and let the bus and the gold fall. After the bus had fallen go and collect the gold at the bottom from the wreckage. Although there is a risk that the gold will be dispersed by an explosion and the logistics of recovering the gold will be tricky given the terrain. But surely a more safe and logical solution given the time frame in which to operate. Throwing a shoe to break a window is not really going to work, easier said than done.<br />
But then again it is only a bit of fun.</p>
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		<title>By: n nicolson</title>
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		<dc:creator>n nicolson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They need to somehow to get some rocks into the coach, to allow the lightest to go to the gold and get a bar. Would it be possible to lean out the door and pick some up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They need to somehow to get some rocks into the coach, to allow the lightest to go to the gold and get a bar. Would it be possible to lean out the door and pick some up?</p>
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		<title>By: Tras 40 años, ya tenemos final para The Italian Job &#124; malaCONciencia.com:historias sorprendentes en la vanguardia 2.0</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tras 40 años, ya tenemos final para The Italian Job &#124; malaCONciencia.com:historias sorprendentes en la vanguardia 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wiot.net :: Automobile :: Climactic cliffhanger from The Italian Job solved with science</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wiot.net :: Automobile :: Climactic cliffhanger from The Italian Job solved with science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thorough treatment, or check out the some of the other 2,000 entries and diagrams at the RSC site. So now that we&#8217;ve got that taken care of, what&#8217;s next&#8230; what really happened [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] thorough treatment, or check out the some of the other 2,000 entries and diagrams at the RSC site. So now that we&#8217;ve got that taken care of, what&#8217;s next&#8230; what really happened [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Car Guides &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Climactic cliffhanger from The Italian Job solved with science</title>
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		<dc:creator>Car Guides &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Climactic cliffhanger from The Italian Job solved with science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thorough treatment, or check out the some of the other 2,000 entries and diagrams at the RSC site. So now that we&#8217;ve got that taken care of, what&#8217;s next&#8230; what really happened [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] thorough treatment, or check out the some of the other 2,000 entries and diagrams at the RSC site. So now that we&#8217;ve got that taken care of, what&#8217;s next&#8230; what really happened [...]</p>
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		<title>By: schmiti</title>
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		<dc:creator>schmiti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this guy messed up his unit conversion. He has 1N as a unit of torque instead of force. 9.8 is supposed to be m/(s^2) not m/s. And of course, the final unit is supposed to be Nm, not just N. So instead of letting this guy win, you should let me go to Turin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this guy messed up his unit conversion. He has 1N as a unit of torque instead of force. 9.8 is supposed to be m/(s^2) not m/s. And of course, the final unit is supposed to be Nm, not just N. So instead of letting this guy win, you should let me go to Turin.</p>
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		<title>By: Climactic cliffhanger from &#60;i&#62;The Italian Job&#60;/i&#62; solved with science - Autoblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Climactic cliffhanger from &#60;i&#62;The Italian Job&#60;/i&#62; solved with science - Autoblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thorough treatment, or check out the some of the other 2,000 entries and diagrams at the RSC site. So now that we&#039;ve got that taken care of, what&#039;s next... what really happened to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The solution offered by the &quot;winner&quot; fails to explain how the man who is lowered down to empty the fuel tank becomes self-levitating and does not contribute to the rearward mass beyond the fulcrum. Shame on the RSC for sloppy thinking.

But in any case I took another look at the movie in slowmo today and counted just over 250 gold bars, which according to standards weigh 12.5 kg each, making just over 3 tonnes.

There are 12 guys on the coach, each weighing maybe 80 kg max each - just under a tonne in total.

Initially, the bus is shown as pretty evenly balanced with both pallets near the fulcrum and the men about a quarter of the bus length from the front. The men move right to the front, but as the bus rocks the pallets slide to the rear (about twice the distance the men moved from the fulcrum). The endpoint approaches six times the original imbalance in favour of going over the cliff. So there would have been no problem to solve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solution offered by the &#8220;winner&#8221; fails to explain how the man who is lowered down to empty the fuel tank becomes self-levitating and does not contribute to the rearward mass beyond the fulcrum. Shame on the RSC for sloppy thinking.</p>
<p>But in any case I took another look at the movie in slowmo today and counted just over 250 gold bars, which according to standards weigh 12.5 kg each, making just over 3 tonnes.</p>
<p>There are 12 guys on the coach, each weighing maybe 80 kg max each &#8211; just under a tonne in total.</p>
<p>Initially, the bus is shown as pretty evenly balanced with both pallets near the fulcrum and the men about a quarter of the bus length from the front. The men move right to the front, but as the bus rocks the pallets slide to the rear (about twice the distance the men moved from the fulcrum). The endpoint approaches six times the original imbalance in favour of going over the cliff. So there would have been no problem to solve.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://prospect.rsc.org/blogs/rsc/in-pictures-italian-job-entries/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually no. I took another look at the movie in slowmo today and counted two pallets of gold bars, each carrying seven layers of some nine cages. Each cage seems to hold four bars, so there are just over 250 gold bars, which according to standards weigh 12.5 kg each. So the two pallets together weigh just over 3 tonnes.

There are 12 guys on the coach, each weighing maybe 80 kg max each - just under a tonne in total. Initially, the bus is shown as pretty evenly balanced with both pallets near the fulcrum and the men about a quarter of the bus length from the front. The men move right to the front, but as the bus rocks, first one pallet then the other slides to the rear (about twice the distance the men moved from the fulcrum). The endpoint result approaches six times the original imbalance in favour of going over the cliff. So there would have been no problem to solve in any case. But the solution offered by the &quot;winner&quot; has a major flaw in failing to explain how the man who is lowered down to empty the fuel tank becomes self-levitating and does not contribute to the rearward mass beyond the fulcrum. Shame on the RSC for sloppy thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually no. I took another look at the movie in slowmo today and counted two pallets of gold bars, each carrying seven layers of some nine cages. Each cage seems to hold four bars, so there are just over 250 gold bars, which according to standards weigh 12.5 kg each. So the two pallets together weigh just over 3 tonnes.</p>
<p>There are 12 guys on the coach, each weighing maybe 80 kg max each &#8211; just under a tonne in total. Initially, the bus is shown as pretty evenly balanced with both pallets near the fulcrum and the men about a quarter of the bus length from the front. The men move right to the front, but as the bus rocks, first one pallet then the other slides to the rear (about twice the distance the men moved from the fulcrum). The endpoint result approaches six times the original imbalance in favour of going over the cliff. So there would have been no problem to solve in any case. But the solution offered by the &#8220;winner&#8221; has a major flaw in failing to explain how the man who is lowered down to empty the fuel tank becomes self-levitating and does not contribute to the rearward mass beyond the fulcrum. Shame on the RSC for sloppy thinking.</p>
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