Comments on: Chemical-free deodorants smell a bit fishy

By: Dr. Kenton

Dr. Kenton — Tue, 03 May 2011 11:02:06 +0000

As the cavewoman said to her rather odiferus cave-huband. “roll on deodorant”
LOL.

By: I R Cox

I R Cox — Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:35:18 +0000

Putting aside the ridiculous distinctions of what is chemical / non chemical – a couple of quick comments on deodeorants ( ask people like Unilever / P+G and suppliers like Reheis for more professional thoughts).Basic principle – kill the bacteria or rect with the body materials – stop them forming basically short chain ( smelly) fatty acids or aldehydes – BO

For really ” natural” options there is always carbon in activated form ( bulk or nano) as an adsorbent

Plenty of metals have antibacterial behavious – silver / copper ( nano or bulk) – bulk properties known for 3000yrs

Some metals – like zinc – also have antifungal / antibacterial actions -particularly with unsaturated ( natural!) organic acids.

Any salt – natural or “synthetic” which hydrolise to hydroxy complexes ( Aluminium , Zirconium – possibly even iron ) are antiperspirant /deodorant – pseudo blocking action.

Straight iron / steel – I doubt it.

Freshly electroplated nickel layers ( adsorb , possibly reacts with organic materials might have an effect.

Sulphur based odours ( garlic etc) have an amazing affinity for metals – even gold – generating monolayers I believe.

If these products actually work in practice then analyse them and work back to the mechanism .

By: Mic

Mic — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:45:42 +0000

Hi Jon,
good luck on your pursuit of the chemical-free cure for bad odours. I don’t think the zielonka soap qualifies, though. The active ingredient is nano-silver. FoE australia, and the Soil Association UK have lots of things to say about why this stuff shouldn’t be put in the water supply or the soil. In the USA a nano-silver washing machine (Samsung) was withdrawn because it contravened pesticide legislation! Fancy that, clever molecule that can stretch the gap between a pesticide and a clothing detergent.

Below is a description of zielonka’s soap:
“Endorsed by independent tests*.
An intricate process makes it possible to inseparately unite the silver particles with the plastic. Silver kills bacteria on the surface of the soap by blocking their energy production. Bacteria is thus prevented from spreading on the soap. Tiny knobs even remove deep-seated dirt. An incorporated mini-brush assists you in cleaning your fingernails.
The micro fine structured surface of the stainless steel core (diam. 3cm/ 1 1⁄10″), works like a catalyst.
Odour molecules are converted into neutral oxygen connections, and foul smelling odours are not merely covered up, but neutralised.
Measures approx. 5 x 7cm (2″ x 2 3⁄4″); weighs approx. 63g (2.2 oz).

* Test report by rent a scientist GmbH, department micro-biology, Regensburg (Germany), dated 1.6.2007. The anti-bacterial effect on Escherichia Coli was tested. After 24 hour contact with this „soap“ containing nano silver , 99.4% of the bacteria were killed (compared with the number of bacteria on an untreated surface) ”

taken from http://www.proidee.co.uk/shop/SID_0123456789_02_GB/F=produkt_formular/P=02_GB_100677/K=02_GB_120050/HI=produktuebersicht_text
January 13 2009

By: Jon

Jon — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:32:50 +0000

Monster Raving Sober Party:

First I’d heard on the Vitamin E structures – very interesting, will have to check that out.

I’m not sure many chemists would use those formulae for cocaine and scopolamine though. As you say, their structures are quite different even though their constituent atoms are in the same quantities per mole.

I’m on the case with Exopheryl. Stay tuned.

By: Monster Raving Sober Party

Monster Raving Sober Party — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:24:58 +0000

P.S. On the subject of deodorants, can you work out what is in this one:

Exopheryl, it’s in lots of products made by this company:

http://www.sageproducts.com

By: Monster Raving Sober Party

Monster Raving Sober Party — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:21:33 +0000

While I’m loving seeing those chemical free twits get debunked as this stuff annoys me too, let’s not pretend all man made substances are the same as natural ones, nor that the chemical formula is all that matters, i.e.:

Cocaine: C17H21NO4
Scopolamine: C17H21NO4

And synthetic Vitamin E and natural Vitamin E have very different crystalline structures, I really wish they would put natural Vitamin E in supplements until they learn to synthesise it properly :/

By: Alex LeBlanc

Alex LeBlanc — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:09:19 +0000

I don’t know much about the BodyStick in particular, but I do know that there are several steel “soap bars” on the market to cleanse the hands of odors from cooking. I worked in a lab that studied garlic, we bought one of these “bars”, and it was amazingly effective at eliminating the garlic odors from our hands.

By: Just another misnomer spread by the Uninformed Hippie

Just another misnomer spread by the Uninformed Hippie — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:36:16 +0000

I agree, the alum crystal is merely a astrigent. Not some cancer causing toxin that the left wing world has misconstrued it to be.

You know sometimes these people are just as hypocritical. You’re fighting “Big Chemical” but you’re misinforming the public by masking or reconstructing reality. This world is a solid sphere of elements, molecular compounds, organic and inorganic substances. And we human are nothing but a mixture of chemical compounds. Their definition of chemical is merely used to antagonize and frighten the public.

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By: waltermiller

waltermiller — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:02:01 +0000

Are we implying it is better to let the natural body odours prevail?